Retweets. We are indeed talking to Rich Rodriguez to return to WVU but as of now it’s only talks. Possibly during the NCAA tournament but it could be immediately following. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came in, regardless of whether any others did. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. ”“B10 has told Washington and Oregon that they have put expansion on hold indefinitely. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. 19 Jul 2023 04:22:28. But again, aside from Rutgers going to B10, Pitt had the most room for improvement. 2. 33. We currently get about $4m for that same content. Sign up“Called my source. 10 Feb 2023 03:36:01Checked with my source regarding B10 proposing half share for ORWA (per Colin Cowherd). 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”MHver3 on Twitter: "CU and AZ are NOT worried about exposure by joining B12 as most if their games would be lye window games so that report is most likely coming from Utah or AZSU. 10:33 PM · Sep 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Amazon gets more first choice. Feb 21. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the AZ schools (because there is value in those markets) MHver3 @MHver3 GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. Also a high ranking member of. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. 3. that will be accurate. $320m per year for 12 years. We don’t have the endowment they have. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. The third is a big market school with a great history that has underperformed in recent years. If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Taking the four will crush the P12. So not just a. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. And they all already know the current numbers. " Arizona is the wildcard that could keep UConn from getting an all sports invite. 3 — is made for TV. Also heard from a source today that someone in Colorado leadership told B12 that if Apple was going to save the Pac12 it would’ve been announced today…My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. But not the question asked. More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. 82. Quote. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. Once again it’s in the media a few days later:. MHver3. Sign upSee new Tweets. THE OUTLAW @Cougarsportsfan · 19m. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. BC, Wake, Cuse. ”Small PAC tidbit: the unequal revenue sharing model being discussed now would be based on achievement in all sanctioned sports. Replying to. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Amazon gets more first choice. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. I just wish I could get some info from the PAC but that has dried up the past few days. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. FSU is the most attractive maybe. 7h. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. 11:22 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. “@godawgs4 Not really. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. He was dealt a horrible“Oregon is as good as already out the door as talks between the Ducks and B10 are intensifying. “Thank you to everyone for your words of support as my family deals with the loss of a very close loved one. Their additions brought stability. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48 Feb 24. A thread is a series Tweets from one person. When information hits I have a duty to share (even if the text comes at 12:15am and I have to work at 6am!). So at least more spots open. “And what’s interesting as well is my B1G source is telling me if ND decides to join B1G then Stanford is the desired partner to come with ND and they will stop there for possibly forever. Sign upThe source that gave me this info said if Apple does pull out of PAC negotiations then it puts PAC in a very bad position and may have to settle for far less money than even the smallest estimates that have leaked. Would the B12 take them?”Sources telling me B12 plans to extend acceptance to Gonzaga following the NCAA tournament. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. In person. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. “Colorado doesn’t even know where Cal and Stanford truly stand and what their real plan is because so far communication has been lackluster with them. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. help. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. " / Twitter. Retweets. 7. 2. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @MHver3. We currently get about $4m for that same content. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. 1. ”“Expansion committee presented a lot of info to Bowlsby and Yormark. twitter. “And then the Tier 3 which would see PAC12N move to Apple with all the rest of the total sports content for about $40m per year”Less than $200m currently. Mountaineer Steve. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. I’ll update as I get more info. WVU also saw success going from Independent to BIgEast. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. 251. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. I actually don’t want more western schools. How to create a thread on Twitter and how to view. (Ralph Freso / Associated Press) Sources say preliminary talks have started on a merger between San Diego State’s current conference and the Pac-12, which is in. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. MHver3 @MHver3. Knight felt it was the best outcome for Oregon and the PAC with no B1G offer coming. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. Phillips had a call this afternoon with Kliavkoff and Yormark/Bowlsby about an alliance of the 3 conferences. MHver3 @MHver3. My source says it’s getting more and more likely a prodigal son returns. Replying to @MHver3. B12 might be inviting 2 schools that have applied to further weaken PAC and maybe force WA/OR hand. Jul 6, 2022. There. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40 @MHver3 Don’t underestimate a possible Pac12 invite for Airforce either. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. MHver3. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 13 Apr 2023 02:07:57 @MHver3 They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their best case to join on the field. 2:24 AM · Jul 3, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. MHver3 on Twitter: "@StevO_1960 It’s in the ESPN contract. and. Quote Tweets. “Still haven’t gotten confirmation or info of the possible meetings for Utah and AZ…”“@MurrDCU They’d be a decent add just for the recruiting area. Quote Tweets. Oregon was the third choice as a. “You can’t make this stuff up! (Though I will be accused of it anyway 😂). 159. 2:52 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ”“Lots of tidbits and rumors pouring in today. That’s it. “@RChalk94 Governance would make the final call though. I believe BE still would’ve added several of the schools that they invited later. Still waiting on my main source to give me the go ahead to share. Likes. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“@IceDevilCA @TheAPBerry I was meaning had the second ACC raid not occurred. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. @MHver3. 150 seconds to PACmidnight. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections”As I said in a previous tweet: the Buffs are an inevitability. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. Sign up“So with those for and the state schools (assuming Utah and AZSU get B12 invites) you have a core of 6. Apple offer could be months away-Apple moving slowly and it could be as late as July for negotiations. Then there’s also the chance that the NY6 bowls all become absorbed into the expanded playoffs as round 1 of a 12 team playoff. Replying to @MHver3. @KStateKyle. MHver3 @MHver3. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. ”“If Stanford would come they wouldn’t want to be the only CA school but Cal is not a good fit for B12 at all in so many ways. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Some in the PAC are trying to push a couple of the others out in an effort to add 2 “better” markets for tv and recruiting without increasing the mouths to feed. That’s all I’ve got. “CU and AZ have been given “all the time they need to make a decision” by BY as B12 is in no hurry to add. Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. Jeff “Jelly” Stacks“Juicy tidbit just coming in. 2. Likes. ”“@blakeblahut @AveCope No. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Replying to. AZ has and AZSU problem. MHver3 @MHver3. Sign up. ”“@JamieExorcistof You are correct. ”Log in. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. And they all already know the current numbers. Could also mean NBC/B12 won’t happen. It’s to actively pursue expansion and re-form the expansion committee. Conversation“Slow day for info and the weekend will most likely be the same, so here’s a quote I thought I’d share for discussion: "Yeah, I know where the money is " Yormark when asked about tv money during an interview with 365 Sports. ”My source is confident of a few things: 16 Mar 2023 13:22:493:25 AM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. As soon as I’m allowed to it’ll be up. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. ”Gonna have envoys from the Rockies and the desert here at the B12 meetings in West-by-God Virginia. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ALT. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. MHver3. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. At least for the next 6-8 years. Sign upFwiw I’m hearing the ION Tv thing was a red herring fed to McMurphy and Kliavkoff is only a few days away from having 2 final proposals in hand to take to his schools for voting. The real question is who is number 2?”“Neat fact about the B12 tv extension: the can open it up for renegotiation if they add a minimum of 2 schools that play in the pacific time zone. A playoff appearance by OKST or Baylor or KSU would change the calculus quite a bit. PAC is in an exclusive window with the 2 main networks bidding on B10 that expires next week. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. and @Mountaineer_Ste. I do think the basement for some PAC schools is $28m net per school with at least 50% linear. Louis Oliverio. MHver3 on Twitter: "So just to recap the West Coast Spin: PAC has drawn up their GOR mimicking the newest revision to the ACC payout schedule and schools are ready to sign just as soon as they see the money? And Also AZ President had no idea this document was created? Ok. ”Log in. Retweets. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. ”“Sorry I’ve been away so long. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. 6. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. FOX would be on board for heavily discounted PAC programming but we aren’t there just yet. “So I was told the proposed breakdown for unequal revenue sharing for PAC. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good. Washington was their next choice. 2. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. ”Log in. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. MHver3 @MHver3. I was responding to a person that shared an article that AZ was meeting with B12 on Tuesday. 239. Also-though much quieter-there will be some zig-Zagging happening this week as well I’m my home state. Likes. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be the best move. 3. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. If B12 adds the right 6 PAC schools it can see its yearly payouts go above that $35m per school number the way the current deal is structured. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. 11. @MHver3. Log in. ”GK about to get shipped to China. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. Retweets. 19. 1 — and for No. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. Current Pac10 members are looking at about $200-$250m per year on the open market. Top to bottom though this new B12 would be the best conference ever assembled. 11. Log in. ”Log in. Posted on 37 mins, V I P, User Since 8 months ago, User Post Count: 670. Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. The desire of B10 is to bring both Washington and Oregon into the fold but Fox is balking at overpaying for both west coast schools considering the actual value they bring. Factions have formed. 3. Retweets. Replying to. ”@MHver3 I don't know what the rumors are you're talking about, but it's pretty simple. It’s who is 14 that is still up in the air (izona?). Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. read image description. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Stanford has not applied to the B12 but has reached out to gauge interest. That’s it. You are just regurgitating what you see on your twitter TL. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. Ed. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. “Pac12 fans should redirect their anger at the B10 and USC and UCLA. @MHver3 Stanford has basically said to B10: pay us our actual value vs what the bloated equal share of the big pie would be. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @CFBKnights. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. “Looks like we have a new ESPN offer for PAC12. They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their. Ugh. Log in. That is all. TomKat“One of the two sources that shared this told me that Stanford is pushing for B12 to rebrand if they add the PAC schools. St Johns has trouble competing in the Big East and would be over their head in the Big 12. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. 13. His rumors are interesting and just believable enough ,. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. If Jimbo gets fired from TAMU (unlikely but possible) he would be the front runner. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. 🤷🏻♂️ I honestly feel sorry for most of the schools in the PAC. That’s it. One feels they were sold a false bill of goods when they joined. I’m hearing we could see a vote by B12 to add them within the next week or so barring a major development. I’m definitely not giving up my CONFIDENTIAL sources. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. Also my Mountaineers are pretty terrible this year too lol. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet”” “@flugempire @YouTube The numbers are not where the presidents want them. Things have escalated. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. ”Log in. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me. Also learning that Stanford has told B10 they will join for a drastically reduced cut of the tv money. 02 Jun 2023 22:14:16. GOR have teeth even for powerful schools. Sources from Colorado are telling B12 contacts that no deal is being presented tomorrow. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. And GK. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. ”Uconn is going to win the championship. They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. It was $24. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. ”“Also telling that PAC12 is saying they are waiting for B10 contract to close before they “know anything”. But the upside of not paying for production for PACN and the possibility of additional revenues for leased games could see the deal approach the low $20m per team. Rumors swirling today that there may be merger talks brewing between Pac12 and Big12 again. Could also mean ND is rethinking. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. ”Log in. Replying to @MHver3. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. @MHver3. Now it’s been twice verified. 7:34 PM · Jul. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. As did VT. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. FSU is the most attractive maybe. MHver3🍎 😂 😂 😂. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. All 3 tiers. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48Feb 24. Replying to. ” March 7th. “@BIG10Bruin When did I say we weren’t getting some combination of the 4 corner schools. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Also the FB CCG. @MHver3. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. ”“@HazzardCoEng Would be a fun league but splitting that tv pie 24 ways would have us in the same boat as pac12. 31 May 2023 12:38:21. 5m was for 6 years” @MHver3 I’m hearing that Kliavkoff has plans to visit UNLV, Fresno St, and Boise St over the next few weeks. The Big East commissioner ran the conference like a basketball conference and treated football as a second class citizen, which is why Miami, VT, Boston College then WVU, Pitt and Syracuse left. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. SawyerBrown94 @RChalk94 · Jul 20. “@BobOThomson I mean it’d be a fun game to play on Saturdays 🤷🏻♂️. 1. It was $24. “I’m going to go out in on a limb here and predict that the 2022 back yard brawl will have a higher rating than any regular season ACC conference game last season. ESPN has ACC and PAC over a barrel in different ways and isn’t likely to pay more. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. This happened sometime in the past few days. AZ too. @MHver3. ”“@ChrisRPhillips B10 dreams for Oregon and Washington left and went to the Bears in Chicago. “Utah hasn’t withdrawn their application but they do seem less urgent and seem to be teetering. 6. You ready for this? Oregon/Washington 16. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. @MHver3. B12 has been told by sources from WSU and Oregon State that they will be submitting applications to the B12 pending how successful the first round of merger talks go. MHver3 @MHver3. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place. 5% each.